.ehsOqYO6dxn_Pf9Dzwu37{margin-top:0;overflow:visible}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu{height:24px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu{border-radius:2px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:focus,._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:hover{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-navIconFaded10);outline:none}._38GxRFSqSC-Z2VLi5Xzkjy{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT{border-top:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);cursor:pointer;padding:8px 16px 8px 8px;text-transform:none}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT:hover{background-color:#0079d3;border:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-body)} Hello been a while since i've posted here but had a question, an issue came up in an edh game regarding the interaction between Obeka, Brute Chronologist and Treasure Nabber. Obeka has been the hardest nut for me to crack deck wise. It also has the active player discard down to hand size if they're over their hand size limit. EDH decks and themes I'm currently playing! If someone did this to me in a game, I'd just say no x infinity so at most itd result in a draw. This isn't even a real thing. 719.1d; see also C.R. is there anyway for obeka's controller controller to keep control of the artifact that was taken due to nabber's effect? As for some cards to remove, I'll take a look, but if I'm trying to build a deck that can handle attention, I look first at cards that will hurt only 1 player, unless that card will almost certainly end that player, either right away or in a few turns. ", Edit: the majority was right. You might get away with adding 2 mana ramp, but I'd still aim for at least 36 lands (or MDFCs that count as a land, you probably already have the best two MDFCs in those colours, but people also run Malakir Rebirth Privacy statement | - from the comprehensive rules. It would be the active player not the one who started the loop. After commander legends I made an Obeka EDH list. Out of stock. 603.3). There is no way currently printed to extend the duration across multiple turns. Otherwise, priority would not pass to all players during a cleanup step, and there would be no need for a second end-the-turn effect? Here is how it would work. Min price of the total 35 cards for sale. This text, though, is unconventional for an ordinary triggered ability, so read it as "At end of combat, exile this creature". $0.24. The gamestate has now returned to where it was before. As the active player you do your combo to untap and trigger it again. TappedOut.js Blog Widget, ETB - Create one ore two tokens (Obeka, Kiki-Jiki, Phyrexian Dreadnought & Minamo, School at Water's Edge), Obeka's Ability and "At the end of YOUR turn" actions, Feldon of the Third Path - Loran's Smile (v1.4). TappedOut.js Blog Widget. Edit: adding comprehensive rules reference. It has Tap: The player whose turn it is may end the turn. Mana Cost: Converted Mana Cost: 4. It has " Tap: The player whose turn it is may end the turn. That way the trigger has gone off and will not trigger again at a later end step. As you've got access to Blue, there are a few non-Rakdos tricks you can use, the most hilarious I know of is Mass Diminish, note that it lasts until your next turn and have a good laugh. Sundial of the infinite has been one of my favorite cards for awhile because of the weird rules associated with ending the turn prematurely. Per the rules you linked: If two or more players are involved in maintaining a loop within a turn, each player in turn order chooses a number of iterations to perform. Obeka, Brute Chronologist. ._1sDtEhccxFpHDn2RUhxmSq{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-flow:row nowrap;flex-flow:row nowrap}._1d4NeAxWOiy0JPz7aXRI64{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText)}.icon._3tMM22A0evCEmrIk-8z4zO{margin:-2px 8px 0 0} The active player, you, must choose a different action. I do not think there has been a day the last five years where I have not had a deck in my hands trying to tune it to perfection. Magic the Gathering, FNM is TM and copyright Wizards of the Coast, Inc, a subsidiary of Hasbro, Inc. All rights reserved. Obeka, Brute Chronologist Commander Primer - Decklist & How to Play. Go ahead and say nuh-uh to whatever shit is flying in your face. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/IdCard.ea0ac1df4e6491a16d39_.css.map*/._2JU2WQDzn5pAlpxqChbxr7{height:16px;margin-right:8px;width:16px}._3E45je-29yDjfFqFcLCXyH{margin-top:16px}._13YtS_rCnVZG1ns2xaCalg{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex}._1m5fPZN4q3vKVg9SgU43u2{margin-top:12px}._17A-IdW3j1_fI_pN-8tMV-{display:inline-block;margin-bottom:8px;margin-right:5px}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY{border-radius:20px;font-size:12px;font-weight:500;letter-spacing:0;line-height:16px;padding:3px 10px;text-transform:none}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY:focus{outline:unset} <i>(Exile all spells and abilities from the stack. The End Phase consists of two steps, the End Step and the Cleanup Step.The End Step doesn't really do much, it basically exists so that triggers looking for it can trigger and gives players a chance to do stuff before the turn ends.The Cleanup Step on the other hand does a lot. This site is unaffiliated. Commander Legends Foil: Obeka, Brute Chronologist Edition: Commander Legends: Type: Legendary Creature - Ogre Wizard: Cast: Rarity: R: Pow/Tuf: 3/4 . Obeka, Brute Chronologist - All good things must come to an END. Let's Brew with Obeka, Brute Chronologist as our commander on. If you run Obeka, Brute Chronologist you can play stuff like Goryo's Vengeance, and she stops eot sacrifices. Active player is distinct from priority. Let's say I'm on my second turn off a Final Fortune. https://blogs.magicjudges.org/rules/mtr4-4/, https://mobile.twitter.com/WotC_Matt/status/1365372480412471296. 3) State-based actions are checked. Me, and the opponent choosing not to end the turn. Obeka interaction question with cards that read "next end Obeka until end of turn vs at next end step. 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DMCA requests | This doesnt work the way you want it to. lothshteth. I proceed to combat and trigger Myriad off a Broodbirth Viper and end the turn with Obeka, Brute Chronologist before the end of combat to keep the myriad tokens. It was enjoyable to learn the true back story behind Feldon. I had to explain it to my cEDH loving friend when they got excited over the spoilers. Rulings. Therefore you must make your opponent's choice to be to not end the turn in order to even propose the loop to begin with. As with "beginning of the next end step" abilities, if you end the turn with Obeka (or Sundial of the Infinite) while a "beginning of the next cleanup step" ability is on the stack, that ability will be exiled and won't trigger again. There was a ruling question I had that took forever to understand because it wasn't specified whether she copied the spell "each time she visited the attraction" or "one time when she visited the attraction". Card Kingdom price: $0.00. 719.1b), but it will still trigger again at the next appropriate moment (C.R. 719.1d; see also C.R. Using Obeka to end the turn with the "until end of turn" triggers on the stack does stop those triggers during the first cleanup step but do those triggers still trigger again at the next cleanup step that follows? Before you even reach the "I am demonstrating a loop" statement you're attempting to repeat the board state already, or your loop hasn't resolved a single "NO" response yet. 4 4 4 comments Best Add a Comment maelstrom197 1 yr. ago From Obeka's reminder text: (Exile all spells and abilities from the stack. 1x Command Tower. Flip (for another land, maybe a better rock, there is Thought Vessel, but fixing is sweet in Grixis). Priority passes to you. Sometimes a loop can be fragmented, meaning that each player involved in the loop performs an independent action that results in the same game state being reached multiple times. Flip, Spear Spewer, and Thermo-Alchemist.Some maybe cards include Angrath, Captain of Chaos, and Cryptolith Fragment #EDH #Commander #MTGWe celebrate ONE YEAR of tune-ups with this patron-submitted list led by Obeka, Brute Chronologist! Switch . by darrenhabib 1 year ago. -. 11/10/2020. 'end of turn' effect: Act of Treason. With the release of Magic 2010, all cards that used to say "at end of turn" were changed to say either "at the beginning of the end step" or "at the beginning of the next end step" (C.R. There are abilities that trigger "at the beginning of the next cleanup step", but they're relatively rare (examples are found in [[Thawing Glaciers]], [[Waylay]], and [[Armor of Thorns]]). This was a great tutorial and explanation of the deck, and well worth the upvote! Add to Cart 1; 2; $0.63 . Should I enter the end phase, then use Obeka to exile the "you lose the game" ability, then during the cleanup step Thawing Glaciers would trigger, and I would need to either use a Sundial of the Infinite, or untap Obeka with a spell or ability and use her ability again? by Outcryqq 2 years ago, Post Contact | Obeka's effect jumps directly to the Cleanup Step from whatever step/phase the game currently is at.If the game was in a step/phase prior to the End Step, it would skip past the End Step so nothing triggering on the End Step would trigger this turn. 603.2). Thus, you can't use Obeka (or Sundial of the Infinite) to keep "until end of turn" or "this turn" effects running after the current turn is over. Opponents upkeep, spell is resolving, whatever. You have to choose a finite amount of times to execute the loop. So, if I may ask, say I want to Final Fortune for an extra turn but also get bonus mana from Thawing Glaciers during that extra turn. If that happens, the active player (or, if the active player is not involved in the loop, the first player in turn order who is involved) must then make a different game choice so the loop does not continue. Obeka, Brute Chronologist. 30-day money back guarantee. by LoneEmberFTW, New Lord From what I understand, end step effects go on the stack and can be canceled by ending the turn with Obeka, but until end of turn effects do not go on the stack and happen with the cleanup step, therefore they cannot be interacted with. If I put a +1/+1 counter on a creature that has a -1/- Can i exile my commander from the graveyard into the Press J to jump to the feed. [Obeka, Brute Chronologist]] I want to build her so bad but every time I try I hurt my head . From what I understand, end step effects go on the stack and can be canceled by ending the turn with Obeka, but until end of turn effects do not go on the stack and happen with the cleanup step, therefore they cannot be interacted with. If this happens, players will have a chance to cast spells and activate abilities, then there will be another cleanup step before the turn is over. by Jack-Frost, Obeka, Reckless Chronicler Obeka, Brute Chronologist - (G) (SF) (txt)Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker - (G) (SF) (txt)[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call, Thank you so much everybody! Also, I think loops generally have to do something for a judge to not consider them stalling, and I don't think making my opponent say "no" counts as doing something. Commander Legends: Obeka, Brute Chronologist. As you will be the next player with extra turns it means that the. Sundial of the infinite has been one of my favorite cards for awhile because of the weird rules associated with ending the turn prematurely. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. .FIYolDqalszTnjjNfThfT{max-width:256px;white-space:normal;text-align:center} There are two effects to look out for here. This includes spells and abilities that can't be countered. Obeka, Brute Chronologist. Okay, hear me out, but what if you could steal someone's big, bad creature, forever, for just three mana*? Feeds | Discord Server | First list: https://archidekt.com/decks/2320784#U.. 513.1a].) A forum for Questions and Discussions about the Rules of Magic the Gathering. This site 2023 TappedOut.net, LLC Not if 720.3[edit 722.3] (added reference in OP) takes effect. If Obeka, Brute Chronologist is used to end the turn before an end step starts the triggers will trigger on the next turn's end step. Add To Wishlist Restock Notice Gatherer & Rulings. Rule juggling is fun but you're overlooking other rules. (Exile all spells and abilities from the stack. Effects that last until the end of a turn end during the cleanup step of that turn. If you're using Goad effects, War Tax can let an opponent have a way around them, if there is a tax to attack Goad fails, and War Cadence is absolutely devastating with Goad, even a tax of 1 to block can make blocking impossible for weenie decks, and you can use either on anyone's turn. Mana Cost: Converted Mana Cost: 4. This does literally nothing. The game advances through the lowest number of iterations chosen and the player who chose that number receives priority. Bident of Thassa is glorious if you want both of it's effects, forcing people to attack is incredibly mean, and this doesn't require you to run a weenie like Goblin Diplomats, but that's also a fun card fwiw. Post In order for it to be considered a shortcut loop you must propose all actions involved including your opponents. Now, according to https://blogs.magicjudges.org/rules/mtr4-4/ [edit: and 722.3 see below] two players are involved in making decisions that keep this loop going. ._12xlue8dQ1odPw1J81FIGQ{display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle} Obeka, Brute Chronologist + Final Fortune + Elite Arcanist/Isochron Scepter = Infinite turns lol. 3) State-based actions are checked. planning on building an Obeka, Brute Chronologist commander deck, but first i want to see how her turn ending ability interacts with other cards:. 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